i lucked out this morning. catching a load of pioneers heading to the hall for fs. i wait for the shit load of them to pass. and grab the last 2. but to my dismise one of them knows me as an apostate. so i give it a try any way. i start asking about km 37 and the new tract. the one that don't know me starts talking, and the one that knows me keeps her mouth shut. so i figure i've gotten to the one that knows my ways. and she's going to let this super sister work me over, remember i'm using the OLD SOFT SHOE . AND BEING NICE. she asks my how i know about the new tract. i use theocraptic warfare. and tell her i have friends in bklyn. and have had a copy of the tract for about a month. i ask her what in the world make you think all false religions will be done away with , any day now.? maybe this year. she's asks were did i get that from. i told her the new tract. she starts rambling on like she knows it all ( i'm firguring she's an elders wife.). she starts asking me if i'm a jw and how i know so much. so i take off the gloves but still wearing the OLD SOFT SHOE. and tell her about how the elders right here in these cong's and conventions promised me as a 10 year old i would never finish junior high school and about 1975. then i switched right into the generation of 1914 and the CREATORS PROMISE THAT THEY WOULD SEE THE NEW SYSTEM. SHE AGREES. AND I BRING HER DOWN TO EARTH . SINCE 1995 THEY CHANGED THIS TEACHING. AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS TEACHING IN 1914 ,1874 ARE ALL DEAD. she's starts to back peddle. i pull out some wt's that state such from my head. she;s losing the arguement . and i'm not even warmed up. I'M STILL USING THE SOFT SHOE APPROACH. i bang her about pyramids and the generation from 1878-1914 = 371/2 years and how russell taught this as truth. i switch into vaccantions. blood , 1919, and the grape cure for cancer. and the radium biolqa glasses they were selling at the 1922 convention. she goes into the name jehovah. i give her a fast reference that that name was made up by a catholic monk naMED raymundus martini. under orders from the pope to prove yehway, and allah were false. and even gave her were to look it up at the kh library. at this point the silent sister . knew i had her super pioneer over a barrell. and they started walkiong down the street. . i worked them some more then all of a sudden the quiet sister remembered my name . duh... i told them i know were you a are going to the hall for fs and it will be my pleasure to back up every statement i'[ve made STRAIGHT FROM YOUR OWN KINDUMB HELL LIBARARY. AS ASKED were are your fagot elders that i kicked the shit out of on wt dogma many times before . it was like shooting fish in a barrell. and i never raised my vioce. childs play. john
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working 2 pioneers today using the old soft shoe.
by johnny cip ini lucked out this morning.
catching a load of pioneers heading to the hall for fs.
i wait for the shit load of them to pass.
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I'm being hunted by an elder - would this work?
by serendipity inthis week elder z shows up at my house twice, unexpectedly.
the first time i didn't see him, but my daughter did and didn't answer the door.
the next time i decided not to answer the door since i didn't feel like talking to him.
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good work. standing up to him and giving him a reason or 2 why your not going. he just may have learned something. if he keeps coming around i would let him know he's now harrassing you. john
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The Uniting of Races ... Credit the Watchtower
by The wanderer inuntitled document <!-- .style1 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #009900; } body { background-color: #f3f2d6; } .style2 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} --> the uniting of the races, giving credit where credit is due although this discussion is going to raise the eyebrows of controversy, it is.
having been one of jehovah's witnesses for a .
number of years i could not help but notice that there was harmony between.
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the wt did a big fat ZERO ZERO, before aand during the civil rights movement. zero. I FACT ALL THE HALLS IN THE SOUTH WERE SEGARATED AT LEAST TILL THE LATE 60'S -70'S THERE WERE EVEN ARTICLES IN THE WT 40'S -60'S SAYING THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS WRONG. IN THE EARLY 1900'S TILL ABOUT 1940 THE WT KEEP SAYING ALL BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE COME PURE AND WHITE. IN THE 20'S THEY CURSED THE SPANISH AND BACKWARDS. AND STUPID . CALLED JEWS PIGS, AND SWINE. SEMITES PIG'S. CHINESE COOLIES. IN 1935 AT THE 144000 CO0NVENTION RUTHERFRAUD, CALLED BLACKS A SERVANT RACE FOR WHITES, AND SAID JEHOVAH'S CHOOSEN BLOOD LINE WAS ARIAN (EUROPEAN GERMANIC WHITES) THE WT WAS NO CHAMPOIN OF CIVIL RIGHTS. TILL IT BECAME IN VOGUE. JOHN
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Overheard at the S.A.D.: Only Witnesses Understand Eph. 5:28-33
by under_believer inat our special assembly day, there was a visiting speaker from bethel.
don't remember his name, but he was a humorless and austere gentleman who was very clearly a company man.
he said many questionable things, especially in the way he generalized about "the world" and "worldly ones.
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it's the jw's tht can't understand the verse. for no man ever hated his own flesh; but he feeds and cherishes it, as the Christ also does the congregation, 30 because we are members of his body. this verse says everyone that believes in christ , as in fact a part or member of the BODY OF CHRIST. or annointed . all one with christ . there are dozens of verses that say the same thing. this was a stupid verse for the bethelite to bring out , and i would have called him on it. he's clearly a spritual drunkard and a dope. john
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I have been invited to a judicial meeting.......
by AK - Jeff inon october 8, at our local kh.. i knew this day was in the offing - i have been playing hide and seek with the bastards for a few months now.
they tried to corner me before the co's visit, unsuccessfully.
i suspect he told 'em to 'get 'er done.
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if it was me i would show up. and wait till they are all ready to start. then stand up and ream the living shit out out of each of them . non stop . turn around and leave. with out ever letting them say a word. john
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PO showed up to encourage me. Haven't seen him for two years.
by Wasanelder Once inyesterday the po (15 years my junior) pulls up in his truck, finished with service and interested in saying hello.
he shoots the breeze for a few minutes and i show him the apt.
we're remodeling.
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great work. as I always say control the conversation with these zombies. it's not hard. in this case. he was lost. no one seems to like this dope. and you told him so. gets you off the hook. then you told him about the phoney love. again he was stuck. then you hit him with the fruits of the sprit and love of each other , as the mark of true christians. and he stumbled again. then you told him your not going to subject yourself to the hate and back biting . they show. you killed him by saying your not bitter any longer and have forgiven. but your not going back to get kicked in the stomach any more. he knew it was all true. and had no honest answers. you kicked the living shit out of him, and i bet you never raised your voice or went into doctrine. i take my hat off to you. john
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2 weeks and still no response to DA letter
by exwitless inok-so, my husband, little drummer boy, and i mailed our da letter 2 weeks ago.
we also sent one other letter to an older woman who was always very kind to us, explaining that we still care for her and to let her know she did nothing to "stumble" us (we knew she would worry about that).
i didn't expect the woman to respond, as she would never "disobey" the organization to contact us.
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if they do stop by or call. you can tell them. what amatter. i knew you guys couldn't read . let me read you my letter. again and then we will have a test on the letter to see of you understand it. 2nd grade stuff. "please do not call or contact me again" now what part of don't contact me again . are you having trouble understanding.? john
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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??
by Seeker4 ini'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
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zarco; i didn't like your answer on the blood issue. screw the new aug 2006 afake on blood. i know many old time jw's that will refuse any blood fractions. and the hlc will just let them die. check the wt news .com etc. you will find at least a few jw's that die from blood every week. and that's just what comes in the united states news. your position is sickening. if i remember correctly from what is reported in the news over 1000 jw's die a year . from blood issues. i'm sure it's 10x that amount. with out news coverage. how about the wt ban in organ transplants from 1967-1980 what the hell was that about. pure bullshit. i knew a jw that needed a kidney from the 70's well she died. why because of the wts.all these scum bag's in crooklyn can drop dead today . and i still wouldn't be happy. you want to serve in the kingdumb hall. and talk about their new blood policy. you will have blood on your hands . just by passing out one blood card. i understan d were your at. and you have a long way to go. to even be forgiven for your sins. as you seem to know . the wacktower babble and crack soc. is full of shit. you can't fool me . even ray franz coudn't reform the wt. what in the world makes you think you can help? walk away and help yourself. john
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Stepping out of the shadows ... The Wanderer
by The wanderer inuntitled document <!-- .style1 {font-family: verdana} --> stepping out of the shadows this thread represents my one-hundredth post since .
registering with this discussion board since august 06.. if anyone ever asked me whether or not i was one.
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wanderer; totally off topic. i see you are a big dion and the belmonts fan. my mom went to high school with these guys. she knew them fairly well, maybe not personnally. a few times when i was a child . my mom with me in tow, ran into a few if them on arthur ave. as i recall they talked a bit about school and knew my mom by name. i'll call her and ask if she has any good stories, john
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I'm being hunted by an elder - would this work?
by serendipity inthis week elder z shows up at my house twice, unexpectedly.
the first time i didn't see him, but my daughter did and didn't answer the door.
the next time i decided not to answer the door since i didn't feel like talking to him.
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if i was you . i wouldn't take my daughter to the hall. they have already guilted her into wanting to go back. just by knocking on the door. it's all by design. i would also tell your daughter she's not to talk to elders without you around . with means never. i think it's time for you to put your foot down . and if they keep coming around . and bother either you or your underage daughtrer you will call the police and end the game once and for all. john